I did try the tape deck straight into the M-Audio, but it's the same low level. All the reasons you give are what led me to it, plus a post somewhere by a guy who used a phono pre-amp to record to his Audiophile 2496 (192's predecessor). LOL, I just put the DJPRE II in my shopping cart -) Thanks for confirming. to get the signal go through tape deck (pr-amps), set it normally for recording. Have you tried if cassette deck output is good when connected directly into M-Audio?īTW, you could route turntable signal through tape deck into M-Audio (output from deck into M-Audio inputs). You probaply could use the cable you mentioned earlier if it's possible gain the unbalanced signal without converting it in CLEANBox. If you end up getting the converter, it's placed between receiver and M-Audio in your current setup (you need RIAA stage from receiver). you can use the cable you mentioned earlier can be used with PC and receiver setups would mean less components between Technics and M-Audio (better quality)
Jiiteepee wrote:I would pick the DJPRE II - because of With the CLEANBox Pro, would the turntable go into it, or would the Tape OUT from the receiver go into it? If the latter, then I could use it to feed the cassette deck into the M-Audio, and not just the turntable, without having to switch cables around. In the end it's only a $25 difference (gotta buy a couple XLR-to-1/4" cables, if I get the CLEANBox Pro). My preference is to spend less money and use the cable I just bought, but only if it'll solve the problem. Do I need a phono pre-amp, like the DJPRE II, or an Unbalanced-to-Balanced converter like the CLEANBox Pro? As I referenced, above, that other guy solved it with the old version of the CLEANBox. I don't really need ASIO, so I doubt I'll pursue that, but thanks for doing the research :-)Īnd you've read my mind re: this problem. No, the receiver only supports recording via the Tape OUT jack. No, they're quite low in the M-Audio CP's meters, as well.
Maybe you need to get that unbalanced to balanced converter box to get the levels high enough.Īudacity bundle does not support ASIO (you need to compile the software w/ ASIO API by yourself to get the support (some licensing issue to bundle w/ ASIO support)). Is there other outputs you could try in receiver end? Selecting it, however, has no effect on the low volume. "M-Audio Delta ASIO" is listed under Audio preferences (Audio device type).
I installed a trial version of Sound Forge. I see MME and Windows DirectSound listed. The peaks are what Audacity and Sound Forge report in the final WAV file.ĪSIO isn't listed anywhere in Audacity, not that I can see. The only other IN is S/P-DIF, which isn't in this equation. I read that as, connect either balanced or unbalanced to said inputs.
The M-Audio's manual states that the inputs are balanced/unbalanced, and the specs for said inputs give max signals for both.
It is ideal for connecting pro audio gear to consumer audio components. "This cable is designed to connect gear with stereo unbalanced phone jacks to gear with stereo phono jacks. Just need to make sure that you are NOT using the Balanced Input connections of the 192 Card.Īlso, how have you got the 192 Card configured in the Windows Sound Setup Panel? Incorrect configuration here can also lead to the troubles you are experiencing.
When you say that you are using an RCA > 1/4" patch cable, how is the 1/4" plug connected to the cable? You may (most likely) have a cable that is configured for an Unbalanced Input, in which case, the Output from the cable will be 6.0db down from what is nominally expected for a Balanced Input. If there's something on the PC side I can do, I'm game, but I'm pretty sure I've exhausted it. I've recorded vinyl to PC in the past, but to much older PCs with consumer grade soundcards same turntable and Kenwood, though. IF that's the case, would a separate phono (pre-)amp be able to supply a proper signal? It's annoying that I can't use the M-Audio properly. To my amateurish brain, that sounds reasonable. Your receiver is most likely consumer grade, putting out -10 dBu." My brother, who has is own studio and is well-versed in most things audio, said this: My guess is that the Kenwood receiver is not outputting at a decent level. The M-Audio manual mentions line-level input. The recording has peaks of ~ -19 dB & -20 dB.
The levels in the M-Audio control panel and in Audacity are max'd. The volume is ridiculously low when recording vinyl.
Hopefully someone has some insight.īriefly, I've got an old Technics turntable into a Kenwood A/V receiver (Phono IN), with Hosa RCA-to-1/4" cables from the Tape OUT to the M-Audio Delta 192's 1/4" INs. I've been researching this problem and came across this forum.